I don’t care. Was curious why she thinks it’s good politics. Taylor signed the contract. Someone bought the company that held the rights. Everyone was a winner. TS wants to Re-trade the deal.That's pretty much in line with her career. She has questioned corporate greed in the past. This is normal behavior for her.
Are you confused that she's defending someone who has a ton of money? I guess I'm confused why you're confused lol
I don't know how much you really know about Warren but this is entirely in line with her previous work and advocacy since at least 2012 if not earlier.I don’t care. Was curious why she thinks it’s good politics. Taylor signed the contract. Someone bought the company that held the rights. Everyone was a winner. TS wants to Re-trade the deal.
I bet Taylor and Warren are LP’s in PE or some alternative asset class. I bet 2/3’s of this board are invested in PE and just don’t know if.
Your jerk off wealth, no matter how it’s attained.I was talking about the political calculus, not your homophobia.
Obama knew how to win. Bernie doesn't. Bernie's only purpose is to shift the Overton window towards socialism which Putin and Poohbear would love.https://www.politico.com/story/2010/05/obama-biggest-recipient-of-bp-cash-036783
Obama took millions from BP. He's a sell out, his administration was entirely an extension of Bush 43. He imploded the entire Democratic Party for cash. He was the single biggest gift to the Republican Party and yet none of you reading this will accept that.
It's insulting you invoke what he says about people working tirelessly to implement the change he lied about trying to do in 2008.
I'm just going to say that this would be the absolutely worst possible ticket the Dems could put up and it has almost no chance of happening, thank god.So with the recent polling having mayor Pete leading in both Iowa and New Hampshire, it got me thinking. Why mayor Pete and not Amy Klobacher?
But why? Outside of not being progressive enough for you what has Amy Klobuchar done that would make her the worst ticket? For a Midwestern guy who grew up in rural Kansas, She’s pretty much the only candidate that actually truly speaks to me. Yet, many of her policies and ideas would be good for everyone, not just in the Midwest.I'm just going to say that this would be the absolutely worst possible ticket the Dems could put up and it has almost no chance of happening, thank god.
This is quite possibly, the only scenario where Trump wins in land slide.
The short version:But why? Outside of not being progressive enough for you what has Amy Klobuchar done that would make her the worst ticket? For a Midwestern guy who grew up in rural Kansas, She’s pretty much the only candidate that actually truly speaks to me. Yet, many of her policies and ideas would be good for everyone, not just in the Midwest.
If the objective is to get elected in a general election and win back many of these mid western rural states wouldn’t someone like Klobuchar be ideal? She actually speaks on issues that are important to rural people unlike vast majority of the Democratic candidates. The folks on the coast are going to vote Democrat no matter what, but there’s a huge chunk of the United States, most notably those swing states in the Midwest, that are up for grabs. You just can’t win any general election getting votes out of just the urban areas. Ask Hillary how that worked out for her.
I never brought up a Amy Klobuchar/Pete Buttigieg ticket. I was saying why not Amy instead of mayor Pete. Re-read what I said.The short version:
Pete is dumping all of his cash on those two states. He is barely polling at 1% with people of color. You aren't winning with that. When he gets to double digits lets talk. Nationally he's at 6-8% overall - not POC but everywhere. Booker and Kamala aren't even doing well with the POC vote.
Pete has a lot to answer for that has hardly been discussed in these threads or on a national stage but while he's gaining some crossover support from Warren, we may see him be exposed on stage tonight and have to answer to some things.
Klobuchar is just not getting anywhere near the nomination. Her home state is on Super Tuesday so it's possible she hangs on while getting 0 delegates in the first four contests.
If one of them somehow wins the nomination and chooses the other, it would be a disaster. Hillary couldnt beat the worst candidate ever, they lost the Senate and House, millions stayed home. Millions.
It's still early though. 75 days until Iowa. We've seen many surges and dips, ebs and flows. But that proposed ticket wouldn't inspire anyone outside of the "vote blue no matter who" and "#NeverTrump"ers. You need independents, you need people who traditionally don't get the polls to be excited to get out there.
Clinton/Kaine failed that last year and the Ds lost all down ballot as a result.
Whoops, yeah I re-read. Seeing them suggested as a ticket together was just astonishing and I stopped reading. I misread.I never brought up a Amy Klobuchar/Pete Buttigieg ticket. I was saying why not Amy instead of mayor Pete. Re-read what I said.
I said for all of those people voting for the mayor, knowing full well he’s not going to get the support he needs from the African-American vote, why wouldn’t you throw your support to Klobuchar? That’s all I was getting at.
No candidate are without warts. Some are just bigger than others.Whoops, yeah I re-read. Seeing them suggested as a ticket together was just astonishing and I stopped reading. I misread.
So for the Pete supporters - and at 75 days away from IA what I type now is relevant as of this writing - a lot of that newfound support is actually from Liz.
But you bring up a good point because Liz is more progressive. Pete and Klobuchar are both Republicans. I don't care what anyone says, they are mostly socially liberal, but they are well to the right of center and are aligned more politically than quite perhaps any other pairing.
So you've got a good point. But for whatever reason, older, white, highly educated liberals have long favored Warren but Pete is dumping massive amounts of Wall Street cash into early states and the shiny new toy is converting some support from Warren.
I think some of Klobuchar's lack of support is the stories of abusing her staff. She doesn't have that charm.
To the rest of your point: tonight I would expect to see Amy and Liz hit him. Tulsi too. He's going to have a target on his back and like I said he has a lot of stuff to answer for: The Kenyan stock photos, The Douglass plan - both of these were straight up fabrication and misleading of black support. The racist cops in his hometown, him firing the black chief of police. None of this has come up.
Democrats eat their own???No candidate are without warts. Some are just bigger than others.
The difference between the Democrats and the Republicans is that Democrats love to eat their own. Which we saw in 2016, the GOP was willing to look the other way when it came to Donald Trump. He was an outsider. So he wasn’t held to the same standards as others. It also didn’t hurt that his base just wasn’t GOP only. People were looking for a certain type of candidate and the rest of the 2016 GOP field was not what they were looking for. Hillary definitely wasn’t what people were looking for.
Mentioned it in a recent post and added another post showing where Bernie gained 2 on Biden.
she was a front runner until about March or so, took a swipe at Biden in April or somewhere, briefly spiked again. People found out more about her record.Nobody supported Harris.
I've been saying for weeks now in various threads that Warren never had any intention to implement it, just like all the others that were co-opting the hype from the majority of Americans, including conservatives that wanted it.Hey Nick- remember when I told you M4A was a losing position? well, Warren now agrees and is already waffling and adopting the Mayor Pete position of a choice in the matter. She’s such a loser. At least Bernie is a fully committed socialist. Warren can’t even get that right.