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Off Topic Royals 2025 Thread

I see it more like, sometimes things break your way, sometimes they don’t. The Royals played a solid game, not scared, sending Aaron back to the bench was an example of that, rather than giving up a hit.
 
We can put to rest that Q uses any sort of analytics with Cameron.

Facing the Cardinals 4,5,6 for the 3rd time after 0 Runs on 82 pitches.

"You're done."

Facing the Yankees 2,3,4 for the 3rd time after 5 Runs on 74 pitches

"Go get em, kid."
Analytics are not the same in every situation and the STL situation had nothing to do with pitch count. STL it was a 3-0 lead in the 7th and Cameron would have been facing R,R,R. At that point your bullpen needs to get the job done. It’s really that simple. Vs the Yankees it was the 5th inning and it was L,R,L (LH are hitting .108/.154/.216, RH are hitting .188/.257/.559) and the RH is Judge who is just as likely to hit a bomb off anyone you put on the mound. If you bring in a reliever to start the inning they have to face all 3 batters. The Royals only have 2 LH in the pen. Lynch splits vs LH are not as good as Cameron and far worse vs RH, Zerpa is far worse vs LH and RH than either Lynch or Cameron.
 
Lorenzen vs LHP Jacob Lopez today. Lopez was a 26th rd pick in 2018 by the SF Giants out of College of the Canyons, which I think is juco out in California. He was acquired in an offseason trade with the TB Rays. He's been up and down from AAA Las Vegas this year. Lopez is 0-4, 6.00 ERA. In his last three vs BAL, MIN & TOR he's 0-2, 10 IP, 15 hits, 12 ER, 4 BB and 14 SO. He did 4 innings with no ER in his last outing against Baltimore. .293 AVG, .371 BABIP, .891 OPS and 4.5 BB/9, 11.63 K/9. Averaging 20.5 pitches per inning!

No one has seen him at the Major league level for the Royals.

A's are .222 (6-27) vs Lorenzen. Seth Brown is 0-11. Brent Rooker is 3-7, 1.000 OPS. Bleday is 1-5.

On paper this should be winnable for the Royals. However, they don't seem to do very well against high walk, high strikeout guys this year so I anticipate they will make this guy look like Cy Young today.
 
Lorenzen vs LHP Jacob Lopez today. Lopez was a 26th rd pick in 2018 by the SF Giants out of College of the Canyons, which I think is juco out in California. He was acquired in an offseason trade with the TB Rays. He's been up and down from AAA Las Vegas this year. Lopez is 0-4, 6.00 ERA. In his last three vs BAL, MIN & TOR he's 0-2, 10 IP, 15 hits, 12 ER, 4 BB and 14 SO. He did 4 innings with no ER in his last outing against Baltimore. .293 AVG, .371 BABIP, .891 OPS and 4.5 BB/9, 11.63 K/9. Averaging 20.5 pitches per inning!

No one has seen him at the Major league level for the Royals.

A's are .222 (6-27) vs Lorenzen. Seth Brown is 0-11. Brent Rooker is 3-7, 1.000 OPS. Bleday is 1-5.

On paper this should be winnable for the Royals. However, they don't seem to do very well against high walk, high strikeout guys this year so I anticipate they will make this guy look like Cy Young today.
As I suspected. Damn offense.
 
Wow - terrible read by Bobby on that steal attempt. Noah with another stellar outing only to have Schreiber give up a 2 run dinger. My un-scientific observation from watching 25+ games this year is that we have a lot of first pitch strike takers ( minus Salvy who seems to swing at everything - and is one of my favorite Royals of all time ). Seems like we have a lot of guys who start every at bat down 1 strike. Maybe its a team strategy but seems unproductive to me.
 
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Quatraro pulls Cameron after 85 pitches and wastes this offensive explosion of two runs.
Q just has to go. Not sure what happened in the players only meeting, but those things to me generally mean a loss of confidence in leadership. His 'management' choices/interference cost us way more than they help imo.
 
And now Q pinch runs for Fermin, whom he will insert for Vinny and take Vinnys bat out of the lineup in the 8th inning of a tie game, so, the Royals get to play the rest of this game without a DH. Optimal over managing. If Fermin is catching and Sal is DH, you simple cannot pinch run for Fermin.


Can't wait for the word salad on how that was a smart move analytically.
 
Been nice following this thread reading people's information/comments - RIP Royals thread. Start a new one for 2026
 
I really hope Garcia was bunting on his own.

Zero excuse for having your best hitter this year up and give away an out when a simple base hit scores a run from 2nd with your 1,2,3 coming up in the 3rd. Which is exactly what Bobby got and Vinny got. Then to let Loftin swing away when you could get the tying run in scoring position in the 9th. Ill never understand making Garcia bunt again, remember game 1 in Chicago, and then left Loftin swing away. Never mind the fact, they burned the base stealers to lose your DH in the 7th instead of saving them so you have Tolbert in for Waters and Fermin still hitting in the 9th. When you over manage in the 6, 7, and 8th, you have no options in the 9th.
 
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You really need to evaluate whether Q is the right guy. Good progress, then a major failure. This team looks lost and defeated. Did they change their hitting coach or strategy? Just a mess. What’s worse is your star is completely lost. Shocking to see. They also need to send Jac down. He is being infected with whatever the hell is wrong with the Royals.
 
Once again, pull Cameron after 84 pitches of shutout baseball because right handed batters due up.

Righties against:
Cameron 188 BA 257 OB 302 SLG 559 OPS
Schreiber, who has replaced him both times
246 BA 319 OB 385 SLG 704 OPS

To put Cameron's stats in perspective, the defending and this year's front runner for AL Cy Young, Skubals stats against righties:
210 BA 239 OB 306 SLG 545 OPS
 
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To sum it all up, Q loves to pull Cy Young lite after 82 and 84 pitches of shutout baseball, pinch run and take the bat out of Vinnys hands with Fermin, whom he will pinch run for and lose his DH in a tie game, bunt his statistically best hitter in a tie game with runners on base and no outs while letting Loftin swing away down one in the 9th. All within 10 days and leave everyone scratching their heads why they can't win games.
 
To sum it all up, Q loves to pull Cy Young lite after 82 and 84 pitches of shutout baseball, pinch run and take the bat out of Vinnys hands with Fermin, whom he will pinch run for and lose his DH in a tie game, bunt his statistically best hitter in a tie game with runners on base and no outs while letting Loftin swing away down one in the 9th. All within 10 days and leave everyone scratching their heads why they can't win games.
Well, when you put it that way, I guess it’s not such a mystery.
 
Was last year a 1 year wonder because this team looks like past Royals teams no power and bad bullpen just bad all the way around.
 
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