I guess the Gottlieb thread got deleted. Anyway, it sounded like he was saying KU wouldn't have 11 straight championships if it had played in the South division back when the Big 12 had divisions. Maybe, maybe not. Here's some info to help you decide for yourself.
The first 7 titles occurred when the Big 12 had 2 divisions ('04/'05 season through the '10/'11 season) so I'm only focusing on those 7 seasons.
KU Conference Record during those 7 seasons (not counting Big 12 Tournament)
KU conference records in chronological order: 12-4 (tie); 13-3 (tie); 14-2; 13-3 (tie); 14-2; 15-1; 14-2
KU record vs. Big 12 North = 63-7 (Winning %: 90)
KU record vs. Big 12 South = 32-10 (Winning %: 76.19)
KU vs. UT = 4-3
KU vs. Texas Tech = 4-3
KU vs. A&M = 6-1
KU vs. OU = 6-1
KU vs. OSU = 5-2
KU vs. Baylor = 7-0
Big 12 South Conference Records during those 7 seasons (not counting Big 12 Tournament)
Overall Big 12 South record vs. Big 12 North = 136-116 (Winning %: 53.97)
UT conference records in order: 9-7; 13-3; 12-4; 13-3; 9-7; 9-7; 13-3
UT vs. Big 12 North = 26-16 (Winning %: 61.9)
UT vs. Big 12 South = 52-18 (Winning %: 74.29)
OU conference records in order: 12-4; 11-5; 6-10; 9-7; 13-3; 4-12; 5-11
OU vs Big 12 North = 18-24 (Winning %: 42.86)
OU vs Big 12 South = 42-28 (Winning %: 60%)
OSU conference records in order: 11-5; 6-10; 6-10; 7-9; 9-7; 9-7; 6-10
OSU vs. Big 12 North = 23-19 (Winning %: 54.76)
OSU vs. Big 12 South = 31-39 (Winning %: 44.29)
A&M conference records in order: 8-8; 10-6; 13-3; 8-8; 9-7; 11-5; 10-6 (arguably the 2nd best team in the South over this time)
A&M vs. Big 12 North = 29-13 (Winning %: 69.05)
A&M went 7-0 against MU, CU, and ISU during this 7-yr period but beat KU only once (on Acie Law's last second shot in Lawrence).
A&M vs. Big 12 South = 40-30 (Winning %: 57.14)
Tech conference records in order: 10-6; 6-10; 9-7; 9-7; 3-13; 4-12; 5-11
Tech vs. Big 12 North = 22-20 (Winning %: 52.38)
Tech vs. Big 12 South = 22-48 (Winning %: 31.43)
Baylor conference records in order: 1-15; 4-12; 4-12; 9-7; 5-11; 11-5; 7-9
Baylor vs Big 12 North = 18-24 (Winning %: 42.86)
Baylor vs Big 12 South = 23-47 (Winning %: 32.86)
Bonus info regarding KU's Big 12 Tourney record during this period
KU won 5 of the 7 Big 12 tournaments during this 7 year period. Its overall Big 12 tournament record was 16-2.
KU vs Big 12 North in the tournament: 6-0
KU vs Big 12 South in the tournament: 10-2
Interestingly, KU never played ISU or MU in the tournament during this time.
KU vs Texas in tournament: 5-0
KU vs. OU in tournament: 1-0
KU vs. OSU in tournament: 2-1
KU vs. Baylor: 0-1
KU vs Tech: 1-0
KU vs. A&M: 1-0
KU vs. NU: 2-0
KU vs. KSU: 3-0
KU vs. CU: 1-0
This post was edited on 3/5 7:13 AM by Sweet_Lew
The first 7 titles occurred when the Big 12 had 2 divisions ('04/'05 season through the '10/'11 season) so I'm only focusing on those 7 seasons.
KU Conference Record during those 7 seasons (not counting Big 12 Tournament)
KU conference records in chronological order: 12-4 (tie); 13-3 (tie); 14-2; 13-3 (tie); 14-2; 15-1; 14-2
KU record vs. Big 12 North = 63-7 (Winning %: 90)
KU record vs. Big 12 South = 32-10 (Winning %: 76.19)
KU vs. UT = 4-3
KU vs. Texas Tech = 4-3
KU vs. A&M = 6-1
KU vs. OU = 6-1
KU vs. OSU = 5-2
KU vs. Baylor = 7-0
Big 12 South Conference Records during those 7 seasons (not counting Big 12 Tournament)
Overall Big 12 South record vs. Big 12 North = 136-116 (Winning %: 53.97)
UT conference records in order: 9-7; 13-3; 12-4; 13-3; 9-7; 9-7; 13-3
UT vs. Big 12 North = 26-16 (Winning %: 61.9)
UT vs. Big 12 South = 52-18 (Winning %: 74.29)
OU conference records in order: 12-4; 11-5; 6-10; 9-7; 13-3; 4-12; 5-11
OU vs Big 12 North = 18-24 (Winning %: 42.86)
OU vs Big 12 South = 42-28 (Winning %: 60%)
OSU conference records in order: 11-5; 6-10; 6-10; 7-9; 9-7; 9-7; 6-10
OSU vs. Big 12 North = 23-19 (Winning %: 54.76)
OSU vs. Big 12 South = 31-39 (Winning %: 44.29)
A&M conference records in order: 8-8; 10-6; 13-3; 8-8; 9-7; 11-5; 10-6 (arguably the 2nd best team in the South over this time)
A&M vs. Big 12 North = 29-13 (Winning %: 69.05)
A&M went 7-0 against MU, CU, and ISU during this 7-yr period but beat KU only once (on Acie Law's last second shot in Lawrence).
A&M vs. Big 12 South = 40-30 (Winning %: 57.14)
Tech conference records in order: 10-6; 6-10; 9-7; 9-7; 3-13; 4-12; 5-11
Tech vs. Big 12 North = 22-20 (Winning %: 52.38)
Tech vs. Big 12 South = 22-48 (Winning %: 31.43)
Baylor conference records in order: 1-15; 4-12; 4-12; 9-7; 5-11; 11-5; 7-9
Baylor vs Big 12 North = 18-24 (Winning %: 42.86)
Baylor vs Big 12 South = 23-47 (Winning %: 32.86)
Bonus info regarding KU's Big 12 Tourney record during this period
KU won 5 of the 7 Big 12 tournaments during this 7 year period. Its overall Big 12 tournament record was 16-2.
KU vs Big 12 North in the tournament: 6-0
KU vs Big 12 South in the tournament: 10-2
Interestingly, KU never played ISU or MU in the tournament during this time.
KU vs Texas in tournament: 5-0
KU vs. OU in tournament: 1-0
KU vs. OSU in tournament: 2-1
KU vs. Baylor: 0-1
KU vs Tech: 1-0
KU vs. A&M: 1-0
KU vs. NU: 2-0
KU vs. KSU: 3-0
KU vs. CU: 1-0
This post was edited on 3/5 7:13 AM by Sweet_Lew
